[fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

Why. Git is a distributed version control system. I really don't need a
3rd party hosting provider when I can do it on my own public server.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows#wfdiag_b

My Git workflow is already like that most of the times and for many of
my projects.

Personally, I'm "cautiously not panicking" :)

Yeah, just like how M$ f**ked up Skype in more ways than one - and
dropped Linux support for good measure.

No thanks!


Regards,
Graeme

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)

Oh God, yes I forgot about those. Amazon is also spreading its tentacles
everywhere and with microphones (smart speakers) planted in every other
home. What is this world coming too? Everybody so eager to loose their
freedom and privacy. Seems Richard Stallman was right all along.

Regards,
Graeme

[geneb]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)

Oh God, yes I forgot about those. Amazon is also spreading its tentacles
everywhere and with microphones (smart speakers) planted in every other
home. What is this world coming too? Everybody so eager to loose their
freedom and privacy. Seems Richard Stallman was right all along.

I look at it this way, Microsoft is putting effort into getting behind
Open Source with their .Net stuff and other things.

Look at how Oracle continues to behave and consider yourself lucky that
they didn't buy Github.

Frankly I think you're getting yourself worked up over nothing...

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[Stéphane Aulery]

News just in....  M$ has bought GitHub.
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml
What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
or my work.
I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
public repositories instead.
Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.
A big advantage is also that it's open-source, so instead of creating
your project on gitlab.com <http://gitlab.com>, you can host your own
GitLab instance. Like Debian is doing with salsa.debian.org
<http://salsa.debian.org> . There are Docker images with ready GitLab
and dependencies, to make it easy.

The Gitlab docker image is suboptimal. There are inexplicable resource
consumption peaks when we use ours at work, even when the machine is
idle. It's inept to put an entire system in another one when you can
already install a basic git service with a web server and tools of your
choice for a limited effort.

Regards,

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Stéphane Aulery
already install a basic git service with a web server and tools of your
choice for a limited effort.

Exactly, a one line command is all that is required to give read-only
access to public repositories. The system stays idle when nobody is
cloning repos, so even suitable for a RPi install. ;-)

Regards,
Graeme

[el es]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

Why. Git is a distributed version control system. I really don't need a
3rd party hosting provider when I can do it on my own public server.
[...]

I guess 'the point of view depends on where you're sitting' to quote a saying...

If you have time to manage your own hosting server* AND do the programming work
AND have life/hobbies/family outside of work... wow... for others in many cases
it's more like 'choose any 2' choice.

(* which is maybe sitting 'there' 99.99% of the time, but when something hits the
fan, it can eat up your entire day in no time...)

It's like a choice for external web hosting vs in-house servers, for 1 man band...
With external hosting, you've got 1 variable less. Or 'a few'.

YMMV of course.

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Regards,
Graeme

Cheers,
el es

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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by el es
If you have time to manage your own hosting server* AND do the programming work
AND have life/hobbies/family outside of work... wow... for others in many cases
it's more like 'choose any 2' choice.

Like I said, I already have a public facing server in place. Adding
public read-only git repos to the mix is two simple steps:

1. Run 'git daemon' to give users read-only access via the git://
protocol, which by the way is the simplest option and way faster that
via the http:// protocol. It's a single command line to make multiple
repos available.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1/Git-on-the-Server-Git-Daemon

2. Open port 9418 on your firewall.

Job done.

Like I said, there is NO need for other services, tools, user access and
all that fuss.

Regards,
Graeme

[Luca Olivetti]

I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub

Hello,
Try GitLab...

Or bitbucket

Bye

[Luca Manganelli]

For me, the acquisition of Monsanto by Bayer is worst :-(

News just in.... M$ has bought GitHub.
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml
What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
or my work.
I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
public repositories instead.
Regards,
Graeme
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[Marco van de Voort]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Oh God, yes I forgot about those. Amazon is also spreading its tentacles
everywhere and with microphones (smart speakers) planted in every other
home. What is this world coming too? Everybody so eager to loose their
freedom and privacy. Seems Richard Stallman was right all along.

Even the Stasi could never have dreamed of victims buying the devices they
are eavesdropped by :-)

Personally the whole github thing is a non story. Github was not making
money and sooner or later the pushing towards from free towards premium
services would have started.

Now, if your company has Office 365, it might in the future also include
github 365 :-)
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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Try GitLab...

And who is going to buy them when they are big enough. No thanks. I've
made up my mind. I'll be hosting my own Git repos from now onwards - I
already have the infrastructure in place (currently hosting web servers,
NNTP server, a mail server and such). After all, Git is a "distributed
version control system" and pointing existing local repos to a new
remote server is a single line command. My day-to-day work and impact of
how I work will be zero.

I'll simply switch from a "Centralised Workflow" (aka GitHub,
SourceForge) to a "Integration-Manager Workflow". I already do that a
lot of the time any ways.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows#wfdiag_b


Regards,
Graeme

[Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis via fpc-other]

News just in....  M$ has bought GitHub.
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml

<snip>

Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

I assume that not many people trust MS .... From
https://m.investing.com/news/technology-news/gitlab-gains-developers-after-microsoft-buys-rival-github-1481198?ampMode=1

"It has been crazy in the last twenty-four hours. We are seeing
thousands switching, tweeting about it," GitLab Chief Executive Officer
Sytse Sijbrandij told Reuters on Tuesday.

Sijbrandij said the platform has imported
https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1&from=1527598466832&to=1528203274215
over a hundred thousand code projects and has seen a seven-fold rise in
orders since the Microsoft-GitHub deal unfolded.

regards,

[Ralf Quint]

What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)

Talking about "from fire into the pan"... ;-)

Ralf

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[Marco van de Voort]

What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will beowned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full controlor my work.
I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHubbecause of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Nowthat plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my ownpublic repositories instead.

Another problem with Sourceforge is the fact that they enthusiastically
block access to any country that's currently on the US government's
*hitlist. I don't know what Github's policy was on that but it's pretty
sure what MS's will be... which is absolutely correct in the context of
an American corporation, but not in the context of non-American users or
paying customers.

Actually Microsoft is quite a large cloud provider, and can afford to
partition its offerings and isn't as dependent on a single point (or
continent) hosting as others.

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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Marco van de Voort
Actually Microsoft is quite a large cloud provider,

As the saying goes....

"There is NO cloud - only somebody else's computer."


My personal opinion:
Why must I store my data and my applications on somebody else's
computer - often regulated by different laws to where I live.
No thanks! I'll keep control of my own data and applications.

Others surely have their own thoughts on that. Do with your data and
apps as you will - so will I.


Just a thought.


Regards,
Graeme

[Santiago A.]

News just in.... M$ has bought GitHub.
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml
What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
or my work.
I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
public repositories instead.
Regards,
Graeme

Poll about whether developers are going to get rid of github after MS
take over

https://slashdot.org/poll/3088/if-microsoft-acquires-github-will-you

I think you, Graeme, are for third option.