[fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Delphi may have Linux support next year

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

What might be interesting is if the Delphi command line compiler could run
on AMD64 Linux, but that's yet to be seen.

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I doubt it will actually run on Linux, because then they would also need
a debugger, which then begs for an IDE to make debugging easier. So in
all likelihood, you would need a copy (and license) of Windows to
develop for Linux - just like you need for OSX/iOS development.

Just stick with FPC and have native tools for each platform. I see no
benefit of having Delphi these days. Delphi is outshined by Free Pascal
and Lazarus IDE for some years now.

Regards,
Graeme

[Marco van de Voort]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

What might be interesting is if the Delphi command line compiler could run
on AMD64 Linux, but that's yet to be seen.

[I would assume your message is off-topic, so I set the reply-to of this
message to FPC-Other]

Correct.

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
I doubt it will actually run on Linux, because then they would also need
a debugger, which then begs for an IDE to make debugging easier. So in
all likelihood, you would need a copy (and license) of Windows to
develop for Linux - just like you need for OSX/iOS development.

Yes, it is a crosscompiler with their paserver remote debug solution.

Also afaik the compiler is the same as for mobile targets, with probably the
same limitations, and not the win32/win64 delphi compiler.

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Just stick with FPC and have native tools for each platform. I see no
benefit of having Delphi these days. Delphi is outshined by Free Pascal
and Lazarus IDE for some years now.

The debug experience under Delphi is still several times better than
Lazarus. More expressions evaluate directly, and types are more easily
browsed and inspectable (specially under D2010+ which has proper debug
support for collection types)

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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Marco van de Voort
Yes, it is a crosscompiler with their paserver remote debug solution.

Thanks for confirming.

Post by Marco van de Voort
Also afaik the compiler is the same as for mobile targets, with probably the
same limitations, and not the win32/win64 delphi compiler.

:-/

Post by Marco van de Voort
The debug experience under Delphi is still several times better than
Lazarus. More expressions evaluate directly, and types are more easily
browsed and inspectable (specially under D2010+ which has proper debug
support for collection types)

Sad but true. Maybe the Free Pascal Foundation or donors to the
foundation will be willing to sponsor such development of a native FPC
debugger at some point. I'll be keen to work on that.


Regards,
Graeme

[Marco van de Voort]

Post by Marco van de Voort
Also afaik the compiler is the same as for mobile targets, with probably the
same limitations, and not the win32/win64 delphi compiler.

:-/

Note that I heard this when it first came on the roadmap. I haven't seen any
confirmation/repitition of that tidbit in the newer rounds of roadmap news
(this summer) yet.



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